The Dr Jo Show

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In 2024, I was banned from the South Australian Parliament. I'm going to tell you why. What's happened since.

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And that's today on the Doctor Joe show.

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Before we get into today's show, can I just ask you, please, right now to just subscribe to the channel and also to spread the word and share it with other people, too? Thanks, guys. So today I was going to give you an update on how things are going with challenging the ban in the South Australian Parliament.

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I guess we need to start with a back story. Late last year in about September, I worked with, a number of legal and medical experts, but particularly also MP Ben Hood, to introduce a bill into the South Australian Parliament that said, after 28 weeks and up until. But instead of killing the baby through the injection and poison and delivering them dead, we would simply deliver these children alive so a mother could terminate her pregnancy in the third trimester.

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Unknown
But she couldn't kill the baby deliberately. Now that was a vicious campaign. It was a lot. There was a lot going on. It was pretty intense. The attacks were relentless that I was receiving. My workplace got inundated by activists trying to get me sacked. There was also media hit pieces, lots of things being said about me. And anyway, if you want to know more detail on why I got banned and what the drama was leading up to it, you can watch this video that's on my YouTube channel that I filmed shortly after the thing last year.

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but essentially what happened was the bill that I'd helped introduce lost by one vote. And once it lost, I thought that'd be, you know, the end of the story for that particular chapter. It was devastating, brutally devastating. But I thought, okay, we're going to have, you know, be able to take a pause now and then move on.

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What I should have realized is the other side.

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Like, vultures would kind of, like, try and come to my carcass and suck on my blood and pull me apart. And that is essentially what they did. So when, the bill didn't pass, they started sniffing around for MPs to say that I'd bullied them or harassed them. And they tried that on Sarah, who was one of the two MPs had spoken to on the night of the vote.

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She refused to do that. In fact, she came on my own YouTube channel. When you can watch the video here where she said you didn't believe me, I was glad you spoke to me. And that it was a good conversation. But I got to the second MP, Jing Lee. I'd spoken to her on the night as well, and they convinced her to make this extraordinary statement in the Parliament.

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Unknown
Now, the thing was, Jean gets up on the Wednesday before I get banned, and she says that she was bullied and intimidated by this unnamed external visitor, so she doesn't even have the guts to name the person who allegedly bullied her. But she was clearly throwing me under the bus. And then I started ringing me straight away because I just assumed it was me.

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Unknown
It was pretty clear that it was me, but she didn't name me, which I find really quite pathetic actually. She then, disappears from the scene, take sick leave, doesn't answer any more questions, and then mysteriously turns back to work in a fortnight. You know, and you know, there's no accountability or transparency over that very seriously defamatory things that she said because she said it in Parliament and you're covered by privilege.

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Unknown
There was no recourse to meet it, to be able to, you know, take it to court and sue her for lying about me, because the reality is on that, not of the of the vote. I'd spoken to Sarah Game, but I'd also spoken to Jing Li, and I'd spoken to Julie about how she was going to vote, and I persuaded her in that conversation to not pay her vote.

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Unknown
But to actually vote for the best bill, to vote for the babies. Anyway, in the speech she gives to Parliament, which obviously the pro-abortion side had tried to get her to do, so she's clearly the kind of person that just perhaps does just listen to the last person she spoke to. But anyway, she gives that extraordinary statement in Parliament about me bullying her, and I get invited to go on ABC radio the next day with David Bevan, and he interviews me, and the first thing he asks me is, did you, pressure Jim Lee to vote for the bill?

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And, and I said very openly, yes, I did. I told her that you should vote for this bill. And if you don't vote for this bill, I'm going to tell the 120,000 people that follow me on social media and on my database. I mean, tell them what you did, and I'm going to tell them to vote for you.

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Unknown
Now, that is just politics, that that's the conversation we had. It wasn't any more aggressive or less aggressive than that. It was just an assertive conversation about the fact that I've been very clear about where I stand on the on the bill and on the issue of abortion. I believe that babies in utero should have human rights and be protected by the law.

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I support this bill. If you don't vote for the bill, I'm going to hold you to account. I'm going to tell people what you did.

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Unknown
And bear in mind that's what the other side was doing constantly on that night, there was all of these conversations in corridors where I would literally walk out and say, for pro-abortion MPs standing over somebody and essentially threatening them and telling them, if you don't do this, we're not going to support you.

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Unknown
You won't get pre-selection. And so I, I would the conversation I had was far more civil than the conversations I saw going on that night by people on the labor side, to some of their own MPs and, and, you know, yet it was me that was being called, being accused of bullying and intimidation. I felt very comfortable with the conversation that we had.

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Unknown
And when I went on to ABC radio with David Bevan the next day, I was able to talk about the fact that not only had he agreed not to pay, but we then took a selfie together where we, you know, put our arms around each other. And she actually texted me of her own volition to say thank you for taking the initiative to speak to me on the night.

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Unknown
So I had the receipt, I had a photo, I had a text message exchange. I never thought I'd need to use them. But given this extraordinary statement where she accuses May of bullying and intimidation, I was able to share that with David Bevan. And then Kat Birmingham in The Advertiser published those records. So I guess I thought at that point, okay, all of this fuss around me is surely going to die down now.

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But then this, then this happens where Terry Stevens, who's a liberal member of the upper house, but he's a bit like, he's a bit like Judas, isn't he? He's he's based, but he's 30 pieces of silver. He's kind of salty. So labor has put him into that, chair as president and so that he could get all of those perks that you get, you know, you get your own chauffeur, you get a salary bump, you get this place of prestige.

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Unknown
You're the boss of the place. Terry Stevens, I guess, is kind of sold away. He sold. He gave away his vote. He doesn't have a vote on the floor, and labor needed to use him for that. And so he's basically Labor's puppet in the in the president's chair. Anyway, he then gets up, after Julie makes this extraordinary statement, after I then clear my name and show the evidence, Terry Stevens then says this.

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Members have claimed to witness insults and threatening and intimidating tactics employed by Doctor Health. I thank members who have provided the complaints and accounts of the behavior they experienced or witnessed. Members must feel safe in carrying out their parliamentary duties.

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Unknown
So not once in this speech where he bans me from the parliament. Does he name anybody who makes any specific allegation against me? Not once was I, actually asked to leave the Parliament on that night. So some of the things he says in speech speeches that I was intimidating and bullying people in corridors that I was yelling in the Parliament itself, and that, you know, this kind of behavior is unacceptable in the parliament.

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Unknown
And so that's why he's banning me. He doesn't give a limitation on the band. It's presumably lost forever. And and he also hasn't given me any due process in allowing me to respond to these allegations in advance. Now, as I've sort of played for you guys, you can watch back the other video. There's no evidence of me yelling.

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Unknown
I did not yell. There was there was nothing I said or did that on the night led to me being ejected from the Parliament. If I had been rowdy or difficult. The president at the time, Terry Stevens, he could have ejected me on the night of the bill. But I didn't do anything rowdy. So he didn't eject me at the time.

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He's now, relying on the evidence of this cabal of pro-abortion MPs who really hate the fact that I've put them in the Baby killers club and that I've called them out and expose what they've done in the fact that they support injecting babies in the third trimester with potassium chloride. For no good reason. For no reason.

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Unknown
In fact, other than I think a mother has a right to a dead baby and that the baby has no human rights protection. So people like Connie Bananas, people like Emily Bourke, Reggie Martin, they there's, Russell Whateley, Ian Hunter, all of these pro-abortion MPs. I guess I have given all of these to Terry Stevens and said she needs to be banned.

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Unknown
Her behavior was unacceptable, and there's been no due process or substantive fairness accorded to me at all. And and he just delivers this authoritarian ban. Now there's very little recourse that we have, guys, as a member of the public when we're banned from the people's House, there's very little we can do. And I at the time I called this out very strongly and thousands, I think we've got over 25,000 on the petition.

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Unknown
I'll put the link in the bio so you can sign it. Guys, in the description. Because, you know, I, we, I at the time challenged it very strongly on the basis that to ban a member of the public from the people's House does not bode well for democracy, especially when that ban is because a gang of people who disagree with that person's substantive position have essentially joined together to create that ban on totally fabricated grounds.

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Unknown
And the only recourse I had was to write, a response to Terry Stevens and to request that he, read that response into the Parliament. So under the Standing Order four, five, five, eight. So this is going to get a bit technical, but under the rules of Parliament, the Standing order four, five, five a you can if your name, if your good name has been disparaged in the Parliament and it's been untrue, you can put your case on the record and request that the that it get ready now.

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Unknown
Present. Terry Stevens has done this before other people. Like Frank Pangulo, got in trouble by this other person because he'd said something about them. And, you know, Terry Stevens had no problem reading that statement. That that person gave to him in response to Frank Panglao understanding of the 455 by but my, response, which, you know, we'll flick up on the screen for you guys, it it it it's quite comprehensive.

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Unknown
I go through in some detail about about the allegations that were made against me and why they were wrong and why there's no evidence for them. It's actually been four months. That was on the 8th of November that I gave this response to Terry Stevens. I don't get a response from him. Three weeks later, I get this email saying, we are considering your, response.

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Unknown
We've received it. But then it's radio silence for months. And this is a guy who's being paid more than $200,000 a year by us, the taxpayer. And he hasn't not only given me a proper response to say, yes, I'm going to rate it into the Parliament, as is your right. But he also hasn't read it into the parliament.

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And and so, you know,

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it is speaks to the total power that this guy has and the fact that he doesn't feel accountable, he doesn't feel like he's, needs to be transparent.

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Unknown
He doesn't feel like he needs to be fair. He can just do whatever he wants to do because he's the president and, you know, and and the rest of us don't have any rights or say so, you know, it is

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Unknown
it is hard. I'm going to be honest with you. It is hard. People from the other side are constantly sort of taunting me, in comments on social media, saying things like, oh, you know, you might have done something really bad to get banned, you know, obviously crazy, you got banned and you can't have this conversation with every person you meet.

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Unknown
No, I didn't bully someone. I didn't intimidate someone. And all you can do is just sit well at night knowing that you didn't do those things. I knew going into this that this would be the approach of the other side. The book Alarmist Gatekeeping by Doctor Debbie Garrett. I talk about it quite a lot with you guys. That book really does trace how anybody that's spoken out against the abortion establishment, they have been bullied, harassed, intimidated, shut up.

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Unknown
Canceled by the other side. And I knew that would happen to me, but I guess I felt or I thought that in Parliament, like in the people's House, you just wouldn't be able to do this and get away with it. So that's kind of, I guess, been very eye opening to know that you can,

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Unknown
I'm still waiting for a response from Terry Stevens. I'm not holding my breath for him to read this into the Parliament, even though he should.

00:11:48:23 - 00:12:13:03
Unknown
I am also pursuing my legal options to see if there's anything I can do under constitutional law to challenge the ban. And I'm also just asking you guys to keep supporting this fight, keep, keep putting the pressure on. So in the petition below, which is in the description, add your name and pass it around to friends, because ultimately, I think we have to hold these people accountable for what they do.

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Unknown
And the good thing is, next year we will have a state election in South Australia, and we'll be able to hold it to account, not just Terry Stevens, but all of the MPs that voted to kill babies in the third trimester.

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Unknown
And also Peter Malinauskas, the premier who, let's face it, nothing happens in the South Australian Parliament without his blessing.

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Unknown
The pro-abortion cabal of labor MPs who ganged up to get me banned with Terry Stevens as like a puppet. That couldn't have happened without Peter Malinauskas saying go for it and you know, I hope that in next year's election we're able to have some focus and scrutiny of him. He loves to be, you know, Mr. Popular coach, dancing at festivals, at sporting events, but ultimately, he has marketed himself as this Catholic guy who is a social conservative and a moderate.

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Unknown
And yet when it came to this bill around abortion, up to bed, he was punching spilled. He washed his hands of it. In fact, he actively tried to, you know, spread lies about it in the media. He made it sound like a radical bill, even though it actually just protected babies in the third trimester. And he himself had voted, previously to stop babies being killed after 23 weeks.

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Unknown
So, you know, it really felt like he was playing politics and, with the ban, it feels like he just is, is essentially trying to shut down my voice and and the voices of people that are assertive on the issue of abortion.

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Unknown
For too long, the pro-life movement in Australia has, has, has been it has been soft, has been cautious, has been afraid of making waves.

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Unknown
And I think one of the reasons the other side got so, confronted by me is because that wasn't that's not me. That's not my style. You know, if you really believe that abortion kills human beings, then we're doing this en masse. This is not just 1 or 2 babies killed. This is nearly 5000 babies every year in South Australia alone being brutally killed.

00:14:06:14 - 00:14:29:05
Unknown
It's mass slaughter in just in Australia, Australia wide, it's close to 100,000 babies. So this is not the time to be softly spoken or to be nice. This is the time to speak up for these babies assertively, and to expect our political leaders to do something about it. And so, you know, they call that bullying intimidation. I just call that standing up for human rights.

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Unknown
Thanks for watching, guys. And I look forward to seeing you next time on the doctor Joe show.