The Dr Jo Show

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Today on the Doctor Joe show, I'll be exposing how the left is manufacturing a fake process of abortion access because of their real hidden agenda, which I'll reveal later in the show.

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This is straight from the left playbook, and they've been doing it for years in all manner of policy areas. But what will shock you is just how blatant they become, how everybody falls into line, and how useless and pathetic the opposition is in calling it out. And that's why we're here, because we're done with the B.S., and I think my job is bringing you the inside scoop on what's really going on.

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this is the hidden agenda. The hidden agenda is

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so they're not satisfied.

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with the fact that we have abortion up to birth on demand in every state and territory in Australia. The people that love abortion, the abortion establishment, I suppose, call them the big abortion industry in Australia.

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They are pushing this so much that they're not going to stop until everyone can access abortion for any reason. Take them. Take that,

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And so now that they've achieved abortion up to by, for any reason, the crisis that they are manufacturing is one of abortion access.

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So the way that this all starts and it's kind of illuminating to see how policy gets made, the way it starts is there's this kind of,

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unholy alliance between academics, journalists and politicians.

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it begins with academics writing articles, finding women who are being turned away from abortions, doctors who say that the hospital system is in crisis and women are unable to access abortion.

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And they gather these data, these stories, they're

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always anecdotal stories, manufactured or dressed up as qualitative analysis, as part of like some semi-structured interview kind of methodology. So

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academics produce those sorts of papers and then they share those stories with pro-abortion journalists. So I'm thinking, you know, Melissa Davie, Tori Shepherd at The Guardian, Lucy Barbour at ABC.

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You know, these these journalists who have a track record of pushing the pro-abortion narrative and share those stories. This the journalists then release these stories and it's all about, you know, these

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abortion deserts, the crisis in abortion access, the women who are abandoned, and they weaponize these stories and then get politicians and pro bush and politicians, typically from Greens, labor and even from the left part of the Liberal Party.

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So they call them moderates, paradoxically, but they're kind of more left in the Greens. So across both major parties and the Greens, they're, you know, very ready and willing, abortion proponents who then take these stories and weaponize me, you know, the academic journal articles and the media exposes, and they use it to do inquiries and to introduce legislation.

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So that's actually what's happening now because we have this fake manufactured abortion crisis in Australia. So I, you know, I'll, I'll share with you guys, this article published in the Journal of Rural and Remote Health, five I think ostensibly pro-abortion scholars have written it. You know, Erica miller definitely jumps out as someone who's repeatedly writing about why we need more abortion and all the barriers.

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And, you know, she's clearly an advocate for abortion. And the title of the article is imagine if we had an actual service equality, the exploration of abortion access challenges in Australia, in Australian rural primary care.

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And

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so what they argue is that there's a crisis in abortion access provision.

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so their research question is to look at what is the state of abortion access in western Sydney. Should I identify one particular region.

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And the methodology that they use is they write to every GP in that region. So there's 113 registered GP's in that region. They write to them with a formal letter, they do two follow up emails, and they do this invitation process at a 12 month period.

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They then use their professional networks in snowballing and word of mouth to get interviewees in. So I just want to, stop right there,

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and just explain something really quickly. Snowballing is a particular methodology that has problems. When I was doing research on undocumented migrants in Australia and I was trying to get into the regions and interview undocumented migrants, the ethics committee turned around and said to me, we don't want you to use snowballing technique because snowballing will result in a self-selection bias, because you basically have someone who's passionate about the, addressing the exploitation of migrant workers or undocumented workers.

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They will then talk to their mate, who is also passionate about it, and it snowballs. You know, it's a word of mouth kind of, strategy of getting rid of getting recruits and bringing people into your survey. So but that's precisely what these, pro-abortion researchers did. They went to having their team registered, and they used snowballing professional networks and word of mouth.

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So they click, you know, using their networks, to possibly sample just to try and, you know, get a sample of GP's. And it's really interesting because this study is published and there's only 16 participants, so that's a

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14%

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response. Right.

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so they interviewed non rural GP's as part of their study. A

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third,

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are abortion providers. They're abortionists.

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They also

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interview people, for women's health and family planning services. That's just code for abortion clinics. So they're literally interviewing abortion clinic, workers. So, the other thing to note is that none of the participants stated they held any conscientious objection to abortion,

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So waiting to see how the study was conducted, it's little surprise what they find,

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They basically find four things.

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The first is that scarce abortion services place overreliance on availability and goodwill of local prescribers. So that means that there's a few people that are willing to do this abortion business and are willing to kill babies right up until birth. And because there's so few of them, it means there's a lot of pressure placed on them. The second thing they find is there's a lack of backup support.

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Financial incentives and training deters the providers. So what this means is they're saying people need to provide abortion to the abortions. They just not getting enough money. And so we need to have more financial incentives to get more people doing it. They also say that training data providers for the fact that we actually want these abortionists to be trained so that it's safe for women, well, that's deterring providers.

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You know, and one of the things in that section that just blew my mind was one of the, pro-abortion participants. They actually said, one of the things we don't take into account is the cost of the state or the country looking after a child who was never wanted, and the cost to the child who knows that it's actually saving the taxpayer a hell of a lot of money down the track.

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So this participant at given the code at SCP 005 actually says to go about it, lad. They say, well, you know, it costs a lot of money to raise a child. Especially when someone did so we should just kill them. It's actually saving the taxpayer. Have a lot of money. So in this argument about why we need more money for abortion is because then we can have more abortionists that actually quote someone, from the abortion industry.

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He says, yeah, give us more money to kill babies because it saves us money down the track. I mean, it's just disgusting. The third thing I find is into professional stigma, secrecy and obstruction. So, let's say, you know, one participant says, oh, you know, it's kind of whispered in

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corridors like,

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Do you know anyone who does abortions?

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One

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participant describes becoming known as a local abortion provider. It was quite tricky for the individuals quality of life in a small community setting. That doesn't bode well for them staying in the community thereafter. Yeah. No

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shit. Like it's killing babies.

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And in a regional community where people just generally are going to be a bit more conservative around this stuff. And probably, you know, these are people in regional communities that typically had some experience by going to farms and they've seen animals before. And like people don't who have that kind of work. They're going to be really uncomfortable with the idea of killing a baby in utero and delivering the namespaces.

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So a dilation and evacuation, abortion or an abortion where the mother takes a pill and then induces deliberately a miscarriage to have her baby is literally delivered on the bathroom floor, or even worse, the injection of potassium chloride late in pregnancy into the baby's heart. And the baby is delivered dead. You know, it's no wonder that in regional communities where

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a lot of regional communities are based in horticulture and agriculture, they're going to be very uncomfortable with this.

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And yeah, it's whispered in corridors because it's a disgusting thing to do to another human being. Yeah. You have to hide it. It should be underground. They should be stigma. But these pro-abortion researchers think that we need to get rid of the stigma, because then we can have more abortionists and we can deal with the abortion access crisis that that made up.

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The fourth thing that they find is that local abortion access requires work around to inform the network. So ultimately what they say is, you know, yes, it can be hard to find, the people that can give the abortions. Yes, it's a bit expensive, but we work around it. We've got, networks to be able to achieve it, and we know who the people are.

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And that's how we get past these pesky conscientious objectors.

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So, you know, in summary, when I look at this academic article,

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what

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really strikes me is this is a biased study.

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It's it's 16 self-selected, people that have a vested interest in abortion who are telling the researchers that there's a crisis in abortion access, and we need more money, and we need more abortionists, and we need less stigma. We want to be applauded for what we do. Kind of thing. You know, it's not very, groundbreaking, rigorous kind of stuff.

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And the other thing, you know, that, you know, when you read something like this is. Yeah, it's a normative piece of work. The authors clearly take a normative approach. They want abortion publicly funded and provided with eating, standard health care and training. They review that abortion is health care, and that every public hospital and every hooker like us should have to be involved in the abortion business.

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So, you know, that's what that piece of research finds. But then what you notice is it's not just that that gets published in some journal that nobody ever reads.

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We can see that there's this unholy alliance between these academics who produce this research and get it out through podcasts and articles, and then it gets given to a journalist who then start really sensitizing this within the community and and creating this, you know, public scare campaign about women who are going to die or are in desperate situations and they can't access abortion.

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So

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the Guardian has written just in the last few years,

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37 articles about this crisis of abortion access.

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and that's dwarfed by ABC news, which, remember, is funded by all of us, has written

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or published 51 media reports on this crisis of abortion access over the last 2 to 3 years.

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in particular, this came to a head late last year because of Lucy Barba, a ABC journalist who clearly has a vested interest in pushing abortion. If we look at her stories,

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Let's take a look at one of her first reports on this so-called crisis of abortion access at Orange Hospital.

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Reflective but still reeling. Melissa's carefully planned surgical abortion was up, ended by a phone call just hours before she was due to be admitted to hospital. He just basically said, I'm really sorry we can't do the procedure today. It was I was broke down. I was like, what do you mean he can't do what? What is that? What?

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Where does that leave me? On the phone was her obstetrician. I could tell he was baffled by the whole situation and he didn't understand why it hadn't happened. Melissa's surgical termination was meant to be performed here at Queanbeyan District Hospital in southern New South Wales. Her baby had severe life limiting malformations. This hospital had performed the same procedure under similar circumstances before, but the ABC can reveal that since Melissa's experience, the hospital suddenly stopped providing surgical terminations for fetal anomalies and medical reasons.

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Melissa's GP says there's been no explanation of the late cancellation, despite repeated requests to the local health district. She fears an ideological opposition to abortion could ultimately be behind it. It feels like a shadowboxing that there's a push back and you're not really sure why, and that's very frustrating. The local health district says it supports women to access abortion services, including medical termination of pregnancy.

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Doctors are calling it an unspoken ban. In orange, the local members also seeking answers after the hospital there stopped providing abortions for non-medical reasons. This is something that's permitted under law. It's a public health institution. The local health district that oversees orange has confirmed it is sending women seeking abortions for non-medical reasons to private providers or family planning.

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The power lies with the minister and with the health department, and it's really important that they ensure that this essential health care is delivered. Melissa eventually had a medical abortion at her local hospital. Ultimately, though, she was denied the right to choose.

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So let's be real. But she wasn't really denied the right to choose, given that she was able to kill her baby anyway. It's not like when I go into hospital, I can demand the type of medical care I receive.

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That is really about what resources are available in that hospital. What types of care the hospital has a specialty in. It's not like I can say, I'm going in for heart transplant surgery, and I want it to look like it's not. What, she had the right to choose to kill her baby because she killed a baby.

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She got a medical abortion. She took pills that, killed her baby. The first to remove the nutrient supply for the baby. The second pill induced labor. And she delivered her baby. Did what she didn't have was a surgical abortion. Because if we read between the lines here, it's not an unspoken ban on abortion. And or in Cusco, it's just literally that there aren't staff that want to do that kind of gruesome work, you know?

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And it's just so,

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it's just so galling when you watch something like that because she says, you know, doctors are calling this an unspoken ban. Tell us the night these doctors. Lucy, is it one is it to, is that what you kind of need to tick the box for journalism ethics these days? Because the realities. This is a small group of pro-abortion doctors around the country, and academics and politicians and journalists like yourself who are pushing this fake abortion process narrative.

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It is not the vast majority of Australian doctors, midwives and this who just don't want to do it. And surgical abortion. I'm presuming Melissa is in the first trimester, because if she was able to get medical termination, taking the pills, that means her baby is in the first trimester. So the surgical abortion method that would have been used was most likely

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is something called a suction abortion. It's where, the abortionist, goes into the woman's uterus with these very powerful suction. It's apparently got a suction more powerful than a Dyson vacuum cleaner, and it literally obliterates the baby's body through the power of that suction.

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you know, they abortion has to assemble that check that no baby parts were left in in the woman. Now, that's a really, brutal kind of job. If you, the person, suctioning the baby out, you know, just ripping their arms and legs and head and all of it apart, and then it gets put in this, you know, this, this tub that you then just have to look through.

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That's a very,

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it's a very reasonable way of killing a baby. And so it's little wonder that at Orange Hospital and Queen being that's another one of Lucy Baby's targets and many regional hospitals, in fact, there aren't doctors who want to do that kind of gruesome, brutal serial killing kind of work as the day job. They just don't want to do it.

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So it's not like there's an unspoken abortion ban. It's just that

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these guys have a problem. And, you know, these academics, these media, these, politicians, they want to force people to do this stuff, but they just don't want to do it. And that's why, you know, Melissa could make this a surgical abortion. But she was still able to kill her baby.

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I think that's probably the bottom line there. But, you know, Lucy Barba is not just, producing one story on this. She's producing a lot of stories. And so that was, from late last year in November, just very recently, in January, she produced another story because these journalists, they ran campaigns on this sort of stuff.

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And that's something that, you know, friends of mine who are journalists tell me that, you know, news organizations run campaigns, and it's really clear when you see 37 articles in The Guardian, 51 articles in the ABC, there's clearly a campaign on abortion access, on the so-called crisis of abortion access and as I said, it stands for the A.

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There's a hidden agenda behind it, which I'm going to share with you. I'm going to get to that in a minute.

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But I'll just show you this next one, which is, from the 20th of January.

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So just a few days ago, and,

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she's updating us on the orange abortion ban. You know,

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staff at Orange Hospital had been directed to stop providing abortion services to patients who presented with no identified early pregnancy complications. That's despite abortion being a legal form of health care, and despite the hospital previously providing the service, regardless of the circumstances. Now, after we revealed, or made those revelations, the ban was almost immediately overturned by the New South Wales Health Minister, Ryan Park.

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And now we've obtained this rather scathing letter, signed off by 15 different doctors from what's called the rural, a virtual rural generalist service, which provides virtual services such as video consults to emergency departments across western New South Wales. It's sent or it has been sent to the chairman of the Western New South Wales Local Health District.

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That LHD oversees the Orange Health Service or the Orange Hospital. And in that letter, the doctors call the abortion ban a, quote, slap in the face to rural women. And it claims the decision to restrict abortion services is a violation of the employee Code of conduct. So the doctors call for any executives who were involved in the decision to restrict abortion services to be dismissed from their positions, and referred to the national health regulator or the Public Service Commissioner.

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And the letter says the complaint has been lodged with the Independent Commission Against Corruption, or Échec,

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So you can see how psycho these people are. They're like buying the blood here. Lucy Barba and a network of 15 pro-abortion doctors who, wanting the names, the names of the people at Orange Hospital who don't want to perform abortions and therefore, these surgical abortions are unacceptable. And they say woman names, they've reported to to Échec.

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Then obviously leaked it to Lucy to get this, you know, not just on socials, but also on ABC news and online stories as well. And they made a story of the fact that there's 15 pro-abortion doctors who, surprise, surprise, are really annoyed that surgical abortions are accessible at Orange Hospital. And you know, the thing that they want, they want these people to be sacked and want them to dismiss them, to be hanged, drawn and quartered, you know,

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they are of the view that if you are a health care worker and killing a baby right up here by this health care, then you don't get to be a health care worker unless you want to do that task.

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so I think this gives us a clue of what their real hidden agenda is. It's they want a monolithic health profession. They want every hospital. I want every health worker to be in the business of abortion so that it's fully dis stigmatized. It's fully publicly funded, and it's fully available, and it's the big problem with all of this is that people don't want to do it, okay.

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So

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So the problem for them is how do we force people to do it?

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And I'm just going to pull up this clip from ABC news. It begins with Erica miller, who's one of the pro-abortion academics I was telling you about earlier. Surprise, surprise. She's a typical voice at the ABC would be interview for a story like this.

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Lucy Bob has never even contacted me or anyone. I, as far as I can tell from a critical perspective of abortion. You know, when you look at the Guardian and the ABC, it's a lineup of pro-abortion voices that they will pick. There's no attempt at balance.

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That means the time that someone has to decide and obtain an abortion is limited. And there are also limits on where you can get one. In South Australia, the Northern Territory and most recently, Tasmania, you can obtain a surgical abortion in a public hospital and it's free, covered by Medicare, but in the rest of the country. Terminate tions are performed in private clinics.

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Now, there's two obstacles when it comes to this privatization of abortion. The first is cost. And so there's significant out-of-pocket costs for abortion. And if you're looking at a surgical abortion at a private clinic, you're looking at upward of about $650 in upfront costs. And so this also is a bit dependent on where you live. And so if you live in Brisbane, Sydney or Melbourne, for example, that's what you'd pay for.

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If you live in Perth, you'd need to pay $850 for the same procedure and the same procedure that's provided for free to people in South Australia and Northern Territory. The second thing about privatization is these private clinics need to remain financially viable, and in order to do so, what's happened is they've really concentrated in large cities where there's more demand.

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And so there's very little, if any, provision of surgical abortion in regional and rural Australia. Doctor Erica miller has studied barriers to accessing abortion services in Australia and says since private clinics in Townsville and Rockhampton closed last year, people in those parts of Queensland have to travel up to 2000km for an abortion, creating additional cost and stress. An alternative for them and many others is a medical rather than surgical abortion, which involves drugs that are on the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme and can be prescribed by any general practitioner who registers to do so.

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The trouble is, most GP's are not registered. Medical abortion, in theory would be could be provided by a GP for little to no cost and so you could go to your GP, you could, they could bulk bill the consultation and then you can get your, the drugs required for medical abortion very cheaply. And so because it's on the PBS and so it costs about 16 or so dollars.

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And in order for that to happen and somebody has to provide the service, the GP needs to sort of be a real advocate of abortion provision, really, because they need to, bill through Medicare that doesn't really fully, fully subsidize the time and labor involved because there's no Medicare item specifically for medical abortion. The doctor also needs to have a relationship with a demographer who'd also book bulk billing ultrasound, because there is a requirement in Australia that you need an ultrasound prior to a medical abortion.

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And interestingly, the World Health Organization have just published guidelines. They say that this ultrasound prior to medical abortion is completely unnecessary. As a result of the regulatory and financial disincentives and the stigma still surrounding the issue. Doctor Miller says only 10% of GP's are registered to prescribe abortion drugs, and that falls to 1% of doctors in rural and regional Australia.

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Only 10% of GP's want to prescribe these abortion drugs. So this approximately 39,000 GP's in Australia. And we've got, you know, less than 4000 who are comfortable with giving these drugs to a woman and then killing her baby that way. So she takes the drugs and her baby gets killed at home. She delivers the baby dead onto the bathroom floor into the toilet.

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And she sees she sees her baby. So the fact that it's less than 10%, I want to do this. The ABC and Doctor Erica miller put this out. The stigma. You know, and red tape. But again, I think it's because doctors don't want to do this. They just feel really uncomfortable with it. They feel uncomfortable with giving a woman a pill and forcing her to do that.

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At home. They feel even more uncomfortable with the surgical options, where they themselves have to do the killing by breaking the body of the baby apart with metal for sex, if it's a dilation and evacuation, or the abortion when it's suctioning the baby out, or the injection or potassium chloride, you know, doctors just don't want to do that.

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That's even more poison. And, you know, I think what we are really now being confronted with is the fact that the hidden agenda that, you know, Doctor Erica miller has and the ABC has and the Greens have, you know, it's it's to force everybody to be okay with abortion. They've tried, you know, they've tried with their propaganda.

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They've tried to legalize abortion up to birth. That tried to make us, you know, think that this is essentially a women's equality, that women cannot be equal. They don't have rights unless they can show their babies right up until. But and and that's not really succeeding is, you know, less than 10% of gays want to do this.

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I think the data on Australians attitudes to abortion Ipsos is a poll every year. It's like 31% of Australians are comfortable working with abortion up to 20 weeks. So imagine if it was up to birth, a level of comfort, or should we say discomfort would be just extraordinarily high amongst the Australian population, which is why they just sort of cover it up and pretend that it's not happening up to birth.

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But it's also why that these people who care about abortion and abortion, abortion, they now the hidden agenda is that they want to force people and hospitals to perform abortions. And so, you know, this is where we go full circle.

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So the Greens led an inquiry into universal access to reproductive health care in Australia. That was an inquiry 18 months ago, led by the Greens in the federal Senate.

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And, of course, what did they find? One of the most pro-abortion political body in the country. And they found that abortion in Australia is a

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postcode lottery. And of course, we then say, you know, journalists like Tori Shepard, endless daddy, producing articles about how abortion is right is a postcode lottery. And there are these deserts. You know,

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so it all feeds.

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It's like this vicious cycle where they just sort of, create this false narrative and then they, you know, perpetuate it and get it out there in multiple channels. And then now what we see,

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bills, we see that the Greens are not saying that they're going to do something. This is Amanda kind. And you said, well, she's announced that at the start of the year 2025, she's going to be introducing something about abortion access to deal with this abortion access crisis that her mates at the ABC and the Guardian have been manufacturing.

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And the end result is the only way they deal with this abortion access crisis is to take more of our money to pay for these abortions, to tie the public funding of hospitals to the provision of abortion. So this is something labor took to the polls in 2019, when Bill shorten was the leader of the federal Labor Party.

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There was an election with Scomo, and the policy that labor took to the polls was that they were going to force public hospitals. So some of these public hospitals are fight based. They're Catholic or Christian hospitals, with a lot of health workers who come from those perspectives who are against abortion. They believe that it kills a human being, which it us.

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And so therefore they don't want to do it. Labor took that to the polls. It was vastly unpopular. In fact, in a review by Jay Weatherill about why labor lost that election because they were expected to win it, this was seen as one of the key reasons why they lost, because that was such a radical policy to force people of faith and faith based institutions to kill human beings via abortion and to tie funding to that, that we're seeing is so extreme that the Australian people, you know, turned on labor was one of the reasons, and so, you know, the Greens are now pushing that in a bill in the New

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South Wales Parliament. And, you know, I think this is the hidden agenda. The hidden agenda is these people are deeply anti Christian, anti-Catholic because they have their own religion and their own religion is abortion. And so if you're not okay with their religion of abortion, free available on every street corner and performed by every health worker because it's essential healthcare, then you are you know, you're you're breaking one of the key tenets of their religion.

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And so that's the hidden agenda that they want to force people to do this stuff. You don't want to do it, and they want to override the conscience of very good, well-meaning, decent health workers in this

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country.

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