The Dr Jo Show

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if you walk down the street, not an average Australian? What is the right response to a newborn baby who has survived the birth but is struggling?

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The average Australian, which is, say, the obvious response is to look after their baby, do whatever it takes to either save that baby's life or to make that baby comfortable before they pass. But that is not the response of federal politicians who have looked at this issue and who have consigned these babies to a life of misery and torture.

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issue we're talking about today is the biggest scandal in our country. It happens once a week. Newborn babies survive their abortion and are left to die in Australian hospitals. We blew the lead on the evidence yesterday. If you haven't seen that, check it out. But today we're going to look at the politics of this issue and you're going to be appalled.

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And that's today from the doctor. Do I show

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So in this video, there's good news and bad news. I'll start with the good news. The good news is our parliaments are beginning to turn them on to this issue. Because of the campaign that we're running and the raising a public awareness on this issue. Our parliaments, both federally and at the state level, are beginning to look at this issue.

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The bad news is the current crop of politicians just don't cut. You're going to see today in this video, a group of politicians just existing in the Labor Party, the Labor Party, you know, and especially the Greens. But these politicians are the norm and they just lack basic humanity. And so that's what we're going to look at today.

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The fact that they are responding to this issue of

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babies who survive their abortion, and then they left to die, they just couldn't do that.

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it might be hard for a normal person to understand the callousness. And that's why in this video, I'm going to forensically show you how they've responded to this issue.

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this began in this current parliament, when Matt Canavan reopened the issue, George Christensen, a previous nationals politician, had introduced bills on this issue in the past. And we've got to give George credit for pioneering on this issue.

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And Matt Canavan reintroduced it. He produced a bill that said that if a baby survives implosion, they should be entitled to equal treatment under the law. They should be treated no differently to any other baby born in that hospital. He was joined by other senators Alex Antic, Ralph Abed, Malcolm Roberts as people who really wanted to see this happen.

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So that then led to a Senate inquiry in June 2023. And it was a very interesting inquiry, the first sort of thing of that nature that participated in I participated in inquiries a lot over the years as an academic in the area of migration reasons.

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But I've never participated in an inquiry on the issue of abortion and this issue of babies who survived their abortion. And so the way they structured it is the first part of the day they heard from people who thought in that convention that we should pass by, we should have birth equality for these babies. And in the second half of the evidence was all of the abortion industry bigwigs, all the people that are apologists for leaving babies to die after abortion.

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And what was just mind blowing to me is that Senator Marion Smith, who was leading that inquiry, who I had always presumed was quite a reasonable person on this issue. In fact, in her maiden speech, she says, I have come into this place to save children, to represent children, to look after the most vulnerable children in our society who can't speak for themselves.

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And I thought, well, this is great. She's chairing this inquiry. Surely she's going to get behind this issue. And yet she is chairing this inquiry and writes a report, the committee about report, where they basically just can't just pilot it. They wash their hands of the issue and they say, yes, some people say this is an issue, but then there's other people that say it isn't an issue.

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So we're just not going to give any recommendation. They don't use any of the coroner's report, so they don't refer to the data that I traversed yesterday. And I've done that for them. I've given them that data, this coroner's report, none of that appears in the official inquiry report by this committee that Marion Smith changed.

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and in fact, what they say is that the current guidelines are sufficient.

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And remember, at the time in July 2023, when they are presenting this report, Queensland actually had in its termination of pregnancy guidelines that if a live birth occurs, do not give life sustaining treatment. So there's an actual mandate in the guidelines that says just if that baby could survive, well, just don't do it. Just don't don't give them that care.

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And so, you know, if Marielle Smith and her cohort who served on that committee to say that the current guidelines are sufficient, I mean, I just it's it's evil, it's barbaric. It is just there's a whole litany of words we could use, but the the reality is they did nothing. So that that's what they did. They produced that report.

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And then I guess the the next thing that to me happened was just Mahabharat was broken. And I just, I guess I'd only been speaking out about abortion for a little while at that point, about 12 months. And I just assumed that as we really started to get official inquiries looking into this, that ordinary, reasonable people that serve in our parliaments would, would, would, would have their minds open and then agree to do something about it.

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I just assumed I had faith in the process, that that would happen. I just thought the reason this is allowed is because nobody knows. We've now got a federal government inquiry. We'll be able to fix this kind of things. We will pass. That is not what happened. And so I did a lot of soul searching and thinking about what to do and what we can as people.

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Reached out to me and at first I didn't know what me from any other politician. And being in this game, I started to, I guess not have a lot of trust in these politicians. So when Robbie Kennedy's people reached out to me and said, rugby's really concerned about this issue of babies in Queensland being left to die to their abortion, I just thought, well, is he doing this for political points for, you know, to try and win votes?

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I, I just don't have an interest in working with people whose heart is really not in these two, the babies that have some kind of ulterior motive. So I kind of put Robbie through the ringer. We did a zoom call. In fact, we did a couple of zoom calls, and I asked him a series of questions and really tested and probed and ultimately he possibly says, actually with flying colors.

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And I can tell you, 18 months on, I now know robbie very well, and I think he's one of the best politicians we have in any state or federal parliament. We need more people like him in the parliament. He's got integrity and he just calls and he's a straight shooter. And he's been through the ringer for that.

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The press has put into the ring that the light and the links have turned on him. But he's a good guy. And anyway, what Robbie and I decided to do was to introduce a bill into the Queensland Parliament that mirrored Nat's bill in the federal parliament. So it was a bill that would get introduced, and it would essentially say that if a baby survives that pollution in Queensland, they're entitled to equal treatment under the law.

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And that's not controversial. You and I can agree that that is just basic, basic humanity. That's what a decent society does to babies. And, you know, again, I guess I had hoped that it would be a non-controversial issue, but I had seen how the abortion industry had responded to that kind of bill, and I'd seen how pro-abortion journalists like Terri Shepherd and, you know, covered up for this issue and just basically not reported on the data when they reported on the border issue, they reported it as a myth, and they just used a line up of people from Marie Stopes saying, this never happened.

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And, you know, so I guess I was starting to get a little bit wiser to the fact that there's something really soft going on. And Robbie's bill got introduced. It was very exciting to see that having a whole bunch of Queensland women turned out for the day that he introduced it, and we did a press conference in Parliament, which is amazing.

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And then there was an inquiry. Now I talked about that inquiry yesterday. So release and said gave a whole testimony about what had happened. And blew the lid on this. She, she's a midwife for 40 years. She broke down in tears before the politician. She explained, you know, this isn't just data and and coroner's reports. This is actually real lived examples that are traumatizing for midwives and nurses who have to deliver these babies and then aren't given any workload allocation.

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And these babies aren't given any rights under the law. So these midwives, you know, these babies are included in staff to patient ratios. So they're left with this newborn baby. They've got to care for the mother who's just had the abortion. Then they've got all these other women, some of whom are pregnant, who give birth and want their babies, and these midwives are left to pick up the pieces.

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And it's deeply traumatizing. So really shared all that in a testimony. And what happened was when I was getting the time back from Queensland, I'd been there that day. I'd heard this testimony, I knew it was explosive. And so on the plane home, if you watch my YouTube videos, let them know that I do a lot on the plane.

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I'm very productive in those hours. And when I was on the plane time, I clipped her video and I created a video for social media. So I put it up on Instagram when I landed and I said, a minute, I landed, I put it up and it was a video that just hit. And, you know, I'm a strong wife, you know, people were commenting, how could this be?

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How could this happen? What are we doing? I put it on Facebook, TikTok, all of my platforms. And, you know, it was getting a lot of views. I think about half a million within sort of eight hours, which for me was a good amount of reach and a really exciting amount of reach to see people seeing this testimony and having their eyes open.

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And one of the people who commented on the video, who Senator Ralph the that a senator from Victoria who wrote on the video on my Instagram page, she said he said, I'm going to bring an urgency motion to the Parliament tomorrow to deal with this. I was gobsmacked. First of all, I didn't know what an urgency motion was, which I felt a bit embarrassed about because I'm a professor of law, I should really know about the different types of things that you can do in Parliament, but no one had ever told me, a way that we can move forward is to introduce an urgency motion.

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And now that my research and what I know is that senators can bring two urgency motions a year, so they have to be pretty circumspect and picky about what they're going to do. That urgency motion on that wrapper that had been so moved by watching these testimony. And they've been following my content for a while, which I think had also helped educate them on the data and facts.

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And so we felt pretty confident going in. And I spoke to these people. And the next day he introduced an urgency motion into the parliament. And what it said was, this happens once every seven days that a baby survives their abortion and is left to die. And that is true. That's just based on Victorian Queensland data. So if we used every state and territory, it would actually be higher than that.

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But we don't have that publicly available. So we know from just two states it's one every week. So that was in the motion. And then he said I call on this Parliament to recognize the human rights of these babies and their rights to equal treatment under the law. So if that urgency motion had passed, it wouldn't have created a legislative right to get equality.

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But what it would've done is send a normative signal, like a sign to everybody that the federal Senate wants this issue dealt with. And, you know, again, this time around, I was just so optimistic because I thought we could lose testimony. We've had the abortion. It's too early to bring the rent code saying, we do this as a matter of course.

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We deliberately do these babies alive and then they have to die. Gene said, leave them to die. But that's the bit that we know happens. And I thought, well, surely the Senate is going to vote en masse for this. And what was shocking to me is that 34 senators that my majority of the people that rocked up for the vote, because a lot of them, the two Catholic, two, even people that were on our side who wouldn't have voted against the babies, they just didn't count their votes.

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They just hit in the bathroom. No joke guys, I didn't turn up to the Senate floor to vote. And so there were 17 courageous MPs who said, we're going to stand for the human rights of these babies. And I say courageous, but can I just be clear? I actually don't think it takes a lot of courage, really, to do that.

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It just takes a sense of decency. Any normal person should do that. We often give these politicians a big round of applause for standing up for, you know, pro-life issues. But in reality, that's just what any basic person should do. So I think it's good that they did it, but I also think that that should be the norm nationally, the very baseline of what we expect of a politician, that they look after babies who survive the reporting and are currently being lifted up.

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But then get these 34 politicians voted against, send in Babette's Motion say that when labor politicians, the Greens universally and then for liberal politicians, and I think that was the bit that really particularly shocked people, that it was, you know, because you expect labor and the Greens, particularly the left aligned party, to be just so radically pro-abortion and so anti human rights when it comes to babies, even though they talk a big human rights game, those left parties about how progressive they are.

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You do expect them to just throw the human rights of these babies under the bus. And so that wasn't surprising that there were four liberals Simon Birmingham, Jane Hume, Andy Bragg and Maria Politic. And Mary Kovacic actually gets up in Parliament and gives a speech about why she's not voting for the motion. Let's take a look at what she said.

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The motion as set out is very black and white. The masses for which it deals with are not.

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these are quite expensive. Everything that's wrong with the caliber of the current crop of federal politicians, most of them are like this. The fact that she can say that it's not a black and white issue, how you respond to a human baby who is left on a medicating issues, gasping for air, is whimpering and struggling to breathe.

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The moral Covid chic that's not a black and white issue. What you do

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in saying that speech and in saying this very reasonable motion, get voted down in this way,

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I then would into action and launched a parliamentary petition against Mary Kojic and the fact that she must resign, it quickly reached so many Australians and people just got behind.

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Even ordinary liberals were calling me and saying, thank you so much for what you're doing. This is a toxic sickness. In the party. We had a Peta. I also jumped on on Sky, really calling out the fall liberals in a disgusting decision to vote against the interests of these babies. Peta Credlin as well did a number of stories on this.

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John Anderson, the deputy prime minister, former deputy prime minister, he also spoke up about this. So we started to see opinion pieces and media articles again, not in the mainstream press, in the ABC Guardian, and SBS nine seven. None of them covered this, which tells you something about the cover up. But we did start to see people waking up to this issue

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The backlash is coming thick and fast over Covid, she says. She then doubles down on social media and releases this video the very next day.

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Yesterday in the Senate, I spoke against an urgency motion that claimed to be about protecting babies. Don't be fooled. That had nothing to do with it. It was an absolute smokescreen and an attempted manipulation of the Senate. What this was about was around trying to take away women's rights about their own health care, and that is entirely unacceptable.

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Decisions about an individual's health, whether you're a man or a woman, should be between you and your doctor.

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What an absolute joke. So she's saying that giving babies a right to care after they've survived their abortion, it's already happened, somehow takes away women's right to abortion.

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So I've been racking my brains to try and think of, like, how could she be making this claim, this claim that it's going to erode access rights to abortion? And the only thing I can think of is that she and the abortion industry are just so furious that the word is getting out about these babies, these newborns who support their abortion.

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Because once you realize that it's a baby who survives their abortion, you start to question abortion itself and the abortion industry and people like Marie come with chick apologists for the abortion industry. They just don't want this word to get out because they've spent decades dehumanizing these babies and

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brainwashing the society so that we don't even think about them.

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Then we don't even turn their mind to them. And yet here now, because of this urgency motion, because of Louise Asset's testimony, we are starting to realize these are babies. Babies struggling to breathe. And you know Koji can't handle it.

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But the good news is it doesn't end there. The story doesn't end there.

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What happens in a few months time is Larissa Waters have agreed to that. You wouldn't think a story that starts with the good news and then leads up to North Sea waters is going to have a happy ending. But it does, because this is what happens. Let me tell you what happens next. There is a what is gets up in the Parliament in about late November, early December, and she says, I am going to introduce a motion myself next week to say that the borderline bill of events should be removed from the Senate because we shouldn't be looking at this issue.

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this isn't surprising from Larissa Waters, who's been pro-abortion throughout her career.

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She said on the board of Children by Choice, the mass promotion advocacy organization in the country. And yet he she she's again doing the typical thing that was, you know, striking the playbook of the abortion industry, the cover up, the fact that, okay, well, we can't even have a bill before the Senate looking at this issue, we and having to pass a motion that removes this bill altogether.

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No, no, no, we just going to disregard the plight of these babies. I'm going to cover it up, ladies. It really spills and nobody knows about it. So we have to stop it. So there's no no to say that again. People like me and others would into action and we asked you guys to call every MP in the Senate and to speak to them about the fact that they had to vote against is motion.

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And you know what was amazing? Because I didn't have high hopes. I think that's the one I listen up to, just being ridiculously optimistic throughout everything that happened up until this point, I just didn't really have hope guys, that we were going to win this one, that the good news is we did.

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What happened took everybody by surprise in that it got defeated.

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And as I was watching the parliamentary debate line on this motion, what I noticed as the vote was taking place is that the full liberals who betrayed us last time either weren't in the chamber or they were voting with us.

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I was like, for the baby. So let's take a look at the very moment when this happened.

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Had an issue all of a sudden is equal. Sorry. The music video is also looking at an execution. It was considered for the eight guys, including those, and then it was resulted in an 80.

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So that honestly guys, was the happiest moment of my 2025 because that's the best victory we have had in decades.

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Now, you may not sound like much of a victory in that we just defeated something that the rest of what is deemed so monstrously evil that she was trying to do. We managed to stop it. But you know what? It is a victory for us. For us who care about the human rights of these names. Because we finally, we finally won a vote.

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And I know that till the end, the end game is that we introduce bills that protect these babies and those bills passed. And that's why we have to get to. But the reality is, when that vote was happening, because of the campaign that we ran against this full legal claiming him, Kane, Brad and Kirby check they did not vote with Larissa Waters and the Greens and pro-abortion labor.

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They actually either didn't turn up to Koch. It didn't turn out that Birmingham actually voted for the babies this time around. And so you can see the impact of our very strong response in pulling them out when they did that disgusting daily voting against permit. I didn't see much. You can see the impact of that when this time around they do the opposite.

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And we know they probably didn't want to do the opposite. They had to do it kicking and screaming. But I don't really care because the fact of the matter is, we got the outcome we wanted in that there is still a borderline protection bill in the federal Parliament.

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There's a petition that's going to pick up on screen. Sign that petition, share this petition, share this video. Make sure that you are doing your best to tell everybody you know about this issue, because this doesn't end unless we end it. And we have to end it because it's the most terrific thing in our country today. So thank you very much for staying with the video to the end.

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If you did, there was good news. There was bad news. But ultimately I had great hope that together we are raising awareness and we are going to happen quality in the not too distant future.